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13 comments:

  1. Ben Schrader, 28. September 2017, 19:33

    The piecemeal (or half-arse) approach to cycleways in Wellington is frustrating for cyclists and reeks of tokenism. It is also confusing for motorists who see a cycleway exists for one moment and then is gone the next. While the very short stretch along Featherston Street is welcome, why not just go the whole hog and extend it for the rest of way and into Victoria St.

    What is really needed is a cycleway that runs along Customhouse and Jervois Quays. While it’s all very nice to ride along the waterfront, it is also means having to carefully negotiate one’s way around pedestrians. A cycleway along this route would speed up cyclists’ travel times and make the waterfront safer for pedestrians.

     
  2. Lindsay, 28. September 2017, 19:49

    Ben. Another example of a vanishing cycleway is the one in part of Victoria Street. You can ride south on it from Ghuznee Street as far as the lights on Karo Drive – and then you’re on your own whether you’re going to Brooklyn or to Newtown. There are no plans in the system to deal with it…And there’s no cycleway for anyone riding north. Apparently the planners think that cyclists never come back to the CBD.

     
  3. luke, 28. September 2017, 20:00

    As I see it, about 2.3km of cycleway would unlock the latent potential of the existing isolated cycleways, namely the Petone Ngauranga gap, Thorndon Quay and from the waterfront (along Taranaki St perhaps?). [And how about from Berhampore to the CBD?]

     
  4. Patrick Morgan, 29. September 2017, 12:48

    Rome wasn’t built in a day. That’s plenty of info at the WCC website on plans for cycleway development. Let’s hope the new Govt continues to invest in better transport choices such as cycling and public transport. I agree the Council needs to do a better job of explaining the rationale for making cycling safe and attractive. Not just for current cyclists, but to make the city work better for everyone.

     
  5. Cr Chris Calvi-Freeman, 29. September 2017, 14:52

    Yes, Rome wasn’t built in a day. Nor will Wellington’s complete cycle network be. The work involved in creating any worthwhile cycling infrastructure is huge but efforts are being made on many fronts.. on many fronts. Oops, I slipped into a Trumpism there, but the difference is we’re genuine and are telling the truth!

    It’s clear and accepted that we need to create complete, joined up routes. However, implementation is of necessity in stages for a whole range of reasons. With patience and persistence the goal will be achieved. Cllr Sarah Free is leading on the cycle network programme in Wellington and I am happy to support her.

     
  6. Michael Gibson, 29. September 2017, 17:20

    Chris – it sounds as though the Council would benefit from having somebody from the community who is an expert on what can go wrong with cycleways. I see Dave Armstrong thinks that Vicky Greco will be a candidate to replace Paul Eagle, so I have written to Justin Lester suggesting that he supports her – could you come out and welcome her local knowledge as well?

     
  7. CC, 29. September 2017, 17:50

    The cycling infrastructure upgrade should be taken out of the hands of planners who are demonstrably underachievers and an expensive liability. The task should be handed over to the award winning Community Action Programme Team that clearly understands the concepts of community engagement and how to achieve results.

     
  8. Glen Smith, 30. September 2017, 12:30

    As Ben says, the approach to cycling infrastructure planning sometimes seems half pie. Lets take Featherston Street. The question here is where should the north/south cycle corridor run through the northern part of the CBD and what form should it take. There are really only four main route options- the quays, the waterfront, Featherston Street or Lambton Quay.
    Briefly.
    The waterfront is a long way from many of the CBD destinations so unlikely to attract cyclists and is a shared space (conflict with pedestrians) and exposed.
    If the Quays house rail with stations (the logical option) there isn’t room by my calculations for 2 road lanes in each direction plus a dedicated cycleway.
    Lambton Quay is a primary pedestrian zone which is likely to lead to mode conflict and again is not central (some distance from the Waterfront) or direct.
    Featherston Street seems the logical option (runs centrally, direct line off Thorndon Quay, can join to Victoria Street, already primarily a transport corridor).
    However the plan is half pie only covering part of the distance, only one direction (unclear where north bound cyclists would go) and too narrow (1.6 m doesn’t allow overtaking). The council needs to bite the bullet and remove parking on one side of Featherston Street (about 40 spaces by my calculation) and make a proper dual cycleway.
    Shop owners might be worried about the effect on business but all the studies show replacing the very small number of shoppers who can park in road spaces with the very large number of people who can use a cycleway actually increases business Motorists might oppose loss of spaces but cars can easily be stacked in a car park building. They might bemoan allocating CBD space to cyclists but would have to argue that the 30% of downtown space that is allocated to cars (with 12-18 across town road lanes including motorway) and the 0% of downtown space that is allocated to cyclists (with no dedicated across town cyle lanes) is a fair, egalitarian distribution.
    Do it once and do it right rather than half pie.

     
  9. Michael, 30. September 2017, 22:41

    Please tell me why we have cycleways on both sides of the road in Oriental Bay when all the few cyclists I saw out there today were cycling along the footpath.

     
  10. Ben Schrader, 1. October 2017, 17:33

    I think Glen’s proposal for Featherston Street is eminently sensible and I hope that it will be implemented sooner than later. And yes, Rome wasn’t built in a day. It in fact took hundreds of years. I trust Wellington’s cyclists won’t have to wait that long to get a decent cycle network.

     
  11. Sarah Free, 2. October 2017, 22:11

    Hi Michael,
    In relation to Oriental Bay, we have recently had some very good engagement with local residents and other stakeholders, and it seems quite likely we may improve the stretch from Chaffers Marina to Freyberg Pool with a two-way separated cycleway of some description, which will join at that point into the existing wider shared path. There are some quite good options, some of which require no loss of car parking. And then of course from there it will hopefully connect to a new two way cycleway around to Evans Bay.

    In relation to continuing the Island Bay cycleway through Berhampore, Newtown and on to the city, we have started some very preliminary engagement with local communities on how best to do this. Quite a lot of thinking on this has already been done over the years, so we are taking a fresh look at some of that and building on it.

    It’s true that some of our cycleways might seem bit piecemeal at present, but we are limited by budgets, the capacity of roading teams to deliver on projects, and practical considerations about how much change communities can adapt to at once. We do have an overall master plan, and as we continue with projects you should see the bits start to link up. However, ultimately progress will depend on continued support of bike-friendly Councils and governments into the future, combined with the willingness of communities to adapt to change and increasingly adopt active modes.

    I’m optimistic that will be the case, and certainly doing my best along with my colleagues to make it happen!

    Cr Sarah Free, public transport, cycling and walking portfolio leader.

     
  12. Marion Leader, 3. October 2017, 7:44

    When was the Council ever “limited by budgets”? After all they have put in enough padding to create a surplus of $11m.
    (Do not take this as any encouragement to do the same ever again.)

     
  13. Neil Douglas, 3. October 2017, 20:33

    Just wait for the wave of smart app hire bicycles courtesy of Chinese Reddy bike and Singapore yellow obikes to hit Wellington. They have already infested Melbourne and Sydney with a bike for hire every 20 metres strewn along the pavements of inner Sydney.

    With no regulation, the billionaire Asian business people behind these schemes just unload thousands of heavy bicycles onto the streets ready for hire at $1.99 per half hour if you download the app. They are heavy with solid tyres. I saw a handful using them mostly for going downhill where they pile up at the beach waiting for a truck to reposition them.

    I can see a policy paper (or three) being drafted at WCC.