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  1. Simon, 2. October 2017, 9:28

    So, the council is spending $90m on upgrading the Town Hall and $40m on strengthening the Civic Admin Building. Surely $130m could be used for a ‘fit for purpose’ Civic Centre for Wellington? Or was that not considered? [The council says the $40m will be covered from insurance payouts. There’s already a budget for Civic Square improvements, which are connected with the Music Hub plans. ]

  2. Deputy, 2. October 2017, 10:34

    30-40million? Is this an inflated insurance claim or what? Or an inflated argument for demolition and developer new build? The damage is not that great.

    The Council’s record for looking after its assets-buildings is getting worse – CAB, Town Hall, MOB-EQ prone?? etc. Are the mayor and Council letting egos get in the way of fixing a building and properly caring for staff? Just fix it, maintain it, use it. Get on with it.

    Some true explanation would be welcome! First – the comparative quotes to fix the CAB terracotta building.

  3. Lou Anderson, 3. October 2017, 7:43

    1. MOB is not earthquake prone, there is no yellow notice.

    2. Does anyone on here understand the complexity of a major insurance claim.

    3. “The damage is not that great” – how do you know that? Have you seen the engineering reports?

    4. The hoardings going up have nothing to do with structural integrity.

  4. Michael, 3. October 2017, 9:37

    How come it has taken this long to decide the building is to be fixed? The council were quick to demand private owners either pull their buildings down or strengthen them, yet they spend years deciding what to do with council property – the Town Hall being a great example.

    For the past year the council has managed to operate in the Municipal Office Building and the top of the library, albeit in cramped conditions. In the meanwhile it has pursued Victoria University to get the music school into the Municipal building,and the staff will have to move out at more cost to the ratepayers. Of course they could just reduce the size of the council, which would be cost effective for the ratepayers. Or maybe there is a friendly developer lining up to build a new building elsewhere?

  5. Deputy, 3. October 2017, 12:46

    Lou: The Council should be upfront with residents and ratepayers…inflated insurance claim? Not being accepted? Staff are to be shifted out of the Municipal Office Building next year, and the council is to pay rent to PWC, a global accounting firm. Hoardings going up around the CAB are going to have murals painted on them. Meanwhile Council staff are highly disrupted, and the public will have no civic “home” as the building lies empty and neglected.

    The Council should get quotes to fix the CAB, make them public, and get on with it. Or is the Civic Centre going to have three empty buildings for at least three years? More relevantly: where is the political accountability for this mess?

  6. Marion Leader, 3. October 2017, 16:51

    I think the “mess” goes back a couple of years to when there were talks about replacing the Town Hall with a hotel. The whole saga has been marked by a lack of political leadership.

  7. Simon, 9. October 2017, 20:58

    In true WCC style, the truth gradually trickles out. The CEO has said they will be moving into the soon-to-be- former PWC building for five years. The reason: the repairs will be lengthy and even then the building will not be base insulated and therefore not suitable (somewhat understandably) for council use. Therefore, by implication, a new building will be required. Of course, the Town Hall will Be base insulated for the Music School.
    So the current plan of spending $220m on the Civic complex which is not suitable for council use needs to be revised.
    But what are the council focused on? Taking a leadership position on cigarette butts. Taking a leaf out of the Trump book – distracting supporters from the lack of action on important issues.

  8. Mole, 10. October 2017, 11:43

    The Civic Centre is a listed heritage site (unless of course the Council has behind closed doors removed it from its list), meaning it has protection. Is the Council breaching its own District Plan? This civic centre is a prized public, heritage and civic asset. It is the heart of the city and Wellington’s civic life..

    Millions have been wasted on delaying the upgrade of the Town hall, and seeing other Civic Centre buiildings as an income opportunity. The mayor and councillors are not being upfront about all of this. The public needs to know what the Council intends. Secrecy is never a healthy way to govern.