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  1. Nora, 6. September 2018, 9:29

    Could be wrong but I understand the building that the council is moving into has been occupied by PWC, who are now in the new “eyesore” on Site 10 on the Waterfront. Also again I could be wrong but I understand Willis Bond owns the Terrace building so hope the Council got a good deal!

  2. greenwelly, 6. September 2018, 10:16

    @Nora, the old PWC building, legally 226 Lambton Quay, is owned by the Canada Pension Plan…. not Willis Bond.

  3. Benny, 6. September 2018, 10:41

    Good to see a trolley bus on that picture! 🙂 Common sense prevailed then.

  4. Nora, 6. September 2018, 10:55

    Thanks Greenwelly but just checked the Phone book and PWC are listed as on 113-119 The Terrace.
    And yes agree Benny good to see the trolley bus!

  5. greenwelly, 6. September 2018, 11:26

    @Nora, yes that is the correct Terrace address, but the legal title of the land the building is sitting on is Lambton Quay, rather than the Terrace….

  6. Ben Schrader, 6. September 2018, 11:51

    I don’t understand why the WCC is not being transparent about whether it intends to come back to Te Ngākau/Civic Square or not. Does it not know?

    And why do we continue to be kept in the dark about its rejuvenation? The space has never really worked as envisaged. This was because it was based on European squares like that at Siena. Whereas Italians like to stand around chatting on hard surfaces like pavers, New Zealanders prefer to sprawl over soft surfaces like grass – Midland Park being a good example.

    The above photo shows such a green space outside the MOB. If the Council is not going back to Civic Admin Building then it should return this space to Wellingtonians as a park.

  7. City Lad, 6. September 2018, 15:14

    Don’t forget that Sir Peter Jackson has withdrawn from the building planned for his movie museum between Wakefield and Cable Streets. Perhaps the city council intends using this for their offices?

  8. greenwelly, 6. September 2018, 15:39

    @City Lad, It would become the most expensive council offices in the country. The three-storey Convention Centre (minus the movie museum) is estimated to cost $180 million, for ~15000 sq m. The shiny new glass tower on Customhouse Quay is approx. the same rentable space and it cost $80 million.

  9. Concerned Wellingtonian, 6. September 2018, 16:03

    The key to the Council’s approach to transparency lies in Mayor Lester’s comment on 2ZB yesterday that he was not interested in people who came to him with concerns and that he was only interested in people who came to him with solutions.

  10. Mark, 6. September 2018, 19:18

    It seems likely that the CAB building will be demolished (fixing it and restrengthening it is only possible up to 67% NBS which isn’t practical) in which case they could just rebuild there. Then there’s also the possibility of the Michael Fowler Centre carpark as a site though it seems this is earmarked for another development.

    This is a presentation made to Councillors in May detailing the general (sorry) state of Civic Square and its buildings: https://wellington.govt.nz/~/media/your-council/news/files/2018/civic-precinct-presentation.pdf?la=en

  11. Citizen Joe, 9. September 2018, 8:03

    And farewell to the 100% electric trolley buses too which served Wellington so well for so may years (as the photo shows) until our uncaring city council oblivious to the idiocy of the ‘out of town’ orientated regional council allowed them to be scrapped.

  12. NigelTwo, 11. September 2018, 18:44

    I have to confess to being a little dis-orientated looking at this photograph. To those who didn’t see it in 1970:
    The view is to the south-east looking across what we know now as Victoria Street. The trolley bus has just turned into the part of Mercer Street that was closed off to make the new civic square. To the left of the bus would be what is now the library and art gallery.

  13. eyeofthefish, 11. September 2018, 22:09

    The Octagon has a large church on one side, and pubs and hotels on the other side, but largely it is a failure as a public space. Cathedral Square no longer has a working cathedral, and is just a site for spectacle of political failure, if nothing else. Auckland’s Aotea Square is the most dire abandoned quagmire, with the world’s ugliest “opera house” on one side and crass commercial ugly 90s architecture on the other side. The Auckland Council themselves have deserted it, permanently. And Wellington? What do you do when the City Council abandons the heart of the Municipal Centre that they created?

  14. Dave B, 19. September 2018, 14:03

    Thanks NigelTwo. I was indeed struggling to recognize how this picture related to Civic Square today. Although I have been in Wellington since the mid-1980s, I have lost my recollection of what Civic Square was like before the CAB went in.