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10 comments:

  1. Pauline, 22. August 2019, 8:51

    At the hearing for Shelly Bay, when I questioned “sea level rising” a council officer said they would put the apartments up on stilts. But when I said the cars would just float away there was no answer.

     
  2. Ron Beernink, 22. August 2019, 9:23

    Very timely with today’s NZ Herald article on “Rising seas: NZ must ‘put brakes on’ coastal development”.

     
  3. Sydney, 22. August 2019, 9:31

    You just may have enough warning to move your car, Pauline.

     
  4. Nullius in verba, 22. August 2019, 11:53

    In reality sea level in wellington is rising at about 2.7mm/year with no statistically significant acceleration in last 70 years. Almost all of that is due to slow 2.5mm/year land subsidence in wellington. Here’s the data. And here.

    So long term absolute (subsidence corrected) sea level rise in wellington is only about 0.5mm/year. Claims of sea level rise in a range of meters are unfounded scaremongering by people who profit from it.

     
  5. Chris Calvi-Freeman, 22. August 2019, 22:04

    Hey Nullius, what do you make of the receding glaciers and Arctic ice coverage?

     
  6. Russell Tregonning, 22. August 2019, 22:29

    ‘There is evidence of ice melt, sea level rise to +5–9 m, and extreme storms in the prior interglacial period that was less than 1◦C warmer than today’—this according to world-renowned climate scientist, James Hansen (2015). Hardly unfounded scare-mongering for profit.

     
  7. Micky, 23. August 2019, 9:14

    The Shelly Bay penguin habitat and rec area should not be developed into apartments. Even without needing to make an issue of the estimated 2.7mm sea rise/subsidence/erosion of the land per year, the public do not want this development and that is enough and should be enough to stop it.
    They shouldn’t get resource consent and shouldn’t be able to just build it above 3m raising the costs to the ratepayers.

     
  8. Adam, 23. August 2019, 21:50

    Chris, to be fair, Nullius provided links to *raw* data. Rather than resorting to whataboutisms, how about objectively critiquing the data?

     
  9. Chris Calvi-Freeman, 23. August 2019, 22:48

    Hi Adam, I’ve looked at Nullis’s data but haven’t had a chance to research the source. I have simply asked what he thinks about the apparent contradiction between his observation of very low sea level rise with the many news reports showing glaciers and ice-flows apparently melting at unprecedented rates. I am no expert in climate change so I want to know more. It would be lovely if it’s established that we’ll have balmy winters and the sea won’t rise, but it appears from most reports that we can’t have the former without the latter!

     
  10. Neil D, 24. August 2019, 9:16

    Draining aquifers has definitely caused sea level rise. A 2012 study showed it was greater than Global Warming. And of course when aquifers are drained, humans face a water shortage. We can think ourselves lucky in having lots of rain but I am wondering when our Councils will stuff our water supply up.