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Conspiracy theories arrived at Te Papa this weekend, promoted in the same context as the colossal squid, the pounamu exhibition, and a national digital forum.
The topic is big on the internet and there were queues for yesterday’s free lecture by American architect Richard Gage whose website is appealing for funds to help pay for this “truth tour.” Only two per cent has been raised so far.
The New York Times has reported that what started as a small number of 9/11 conspiracy theorists has ballooned into a movement of sorts, largely fed by internet sites and homemade videos.
Richard Gage and his supporters do not agree with the results of a five-year 915-page government investigation which shows that fire was the cause of the collapse of the third tower. The leader of the investigation, carried out by 50 scientists, said he couldn’t explain why scepticism wouldn’t die. “I am really not a psychologist,” he said. “Our job was to come up with the best science.” Wait a minute. Isn’t that what’s expected from Te Papa?
It’s hard to think of a national museum anywhere else in the world that would offer such credibility to this subject. Blogger David Farrar has branded the visitor’s 9/11 theories as “lunacy” and says his book is “barking mad.” He says that Greens co-leader Jeannette Fitzsimons was showing “nuttiness” by meeting the visitor. If there’s nuttiness, then the national museum was sharing in it by providing a venue for the conspiracy theorist and promoting his conspiracy theories in its advertising.
A Boston Globe writer offered his opinions of conspiracy theorists last year, writing that every major news event now attracts an accompanying backwash of debunking, counter-factual argument, and conspiracy-mongering. The Daily Telegraph’s US editor went further and called conspiracy theorists nutcases.
But if, like Te Papa, you want to help the cause, you can go to their online shop and choose from dvds, posters, bumper stickers and evidence cards. Or like members of the Destiny Church, you can give your pledge to the truth movement. No doubt Te Papa’s scientific staff will be signing up soon.
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Richard Gage at Te Papa
Lindsay Shelton must be rather ignorant to write such garbage. If he spent 3 seconds on ae911truth.org then perhaps he would have noticed that there is overwhelming scientific evidence to support Gage’s claims.
Unfortunately, Shelton suffers from a serious mental disease called denial. Victims of this disease often write irrational hit-pieces. Strangely enough, Shelton ignores the fact that Scoop’s editor, Gordon Campbell, covertly supports ae911truth by partly agreeing with it while hiding in the closet. Shelton also ignores the fact that almost 1000 architects have signed Gage’s petition, and also ignores any debate.
This “everyone sucks but me” article is full of wankery and lies and it really shows that even Scoop is hiring morons to write “news”. If Shelton actually has a brain then he should hit the “ON” switch as soon as possible. Calling Gage a “nutcase” and a “conspiracy theorist” is an intellectual cop out. But let’s not get into any kind of intelligent debate, because if we did then Shelton would lose, as he knows.
I guess it is one conspiracy theory or the other.
What about the one where a CIA-trained team living in caves in the Himalayas team up with a group of Saudis living in Germany because they don’t like US troops camped near Mecca. They send some young guys to the US to learn to fly Piper Cubs without landing. Then they hijack four jet planes and fly them into three buildings that even professional pilots would have trouble hitting if they were flying that fast and low. Then all four planes completely vapourise like no plane crash has done before. And three skyscrapers fall down to the ground like has never happened before with any skyscraper fire. Then the Americans get really angry and attack a country that was never linked to the plane hijackings and which just happened to own heaps of oil.
I guess I will have to toss a coin.
Appealing to the size and make-up of a 915 page document as an assertion of its authority is a weak point to argue from Lindsay.
If you were to engage and respond to the physical arguments presented by this architect, you would have my ear. The case presented at Te Papa was about presenting physical evidence that has been ignored by FEMA and NIST. Discounting evidence because it does not fit in with the gravity induced collapse hypothesis is hardly scientific. Luckily we could get a chance to consider that science at Te Papa. A fantastically appropriate venue, also known as “Our Place”.
We can thank Te Papa very much for living up to its mandate, and be foot stamping proud of them for doing so. By facilitating this presentation, they have actually managed to lodge an incredibly important truth into the ledger book of our history. The awakening knowledge of the 911 atrocity as “explosive demolition” rather than the manufactured theory of ‘fire induced sequential collapse’, This is a major confrontation , one so far NO new zealand journalist other than Sophie Schroder of the Capital Times has been able to cope with:
Buildings cannot gravitationally “collapse” downwards through their own mass structural support at FREE FALL speed, unless that structural support has BEEN REMOVED. Nature does not allow it.
Free fall is free fall. The top 15 stories of a 110 storied steel structured high rise CANNOT fall through itself at free fall speed. That is it. Mr Gage produced evidence of both unignited and ignited high grade nanothermitic materials existent in the dust of 911. Incendiaries.
A disgusting manipulation has been played upon us, the people of the world. a manipulation that has stolen our past 8 years , thrown us into a “war on terror” , murdered countless thousands – hundreds of thousands of innocents, a manipulation devised by the very forces that placed that nanothermitic material in those towers.
To Mr Shelton, who posted this cut and paste pap, Richard Gage has never written any book. He told me that himself. You could phone and ask him if you wanted to check your facts.
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Mr. Shelton quotes Mr. Farrer, who (mis-) quotes Mr. Nippert (of the Herald), who quotes Mr. Dentith, who says something about “…anti-semitic agendas.” Could be merely a game of “gossip” (wherein someone in a circle whispers something into the ear of the person next, who passes along what was heard to the next, and so on around the circle; the last person announces what he/she heard, and the first person announces what was first said, to the amusement of all).
Or it could be that one or more of our “informants” stands somewhere on some Agency’s “mighty Wurlitzer” food-chain (patsy, “asset”, field agent, supervisor…). What’s a poor casual reader to think?
As it happens, there is nothing in the Herald account about Ruppert’s Book, Crossing the Rubicon, a sobering, fact-based, extensively referenced work which may be mistaken in some respects but is far from “barking mad,” nor is there anything even remotely anti-semitic in the scientific work of Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth, including Mr. Gage’s film 911: Blueprint for Truth.
It seems clear that none of our “informants” have read “Rubicon” or watched “Blueprint”, and hence they are completely unqualified to discuss either. Alternatively, they are either dogmatically devoted to an ideology which precludes objective evaluation of evidence presented, or they are more-or-less consciously advancing an agenda which, to put it mildly, lies far afield from honest enquiry.