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12 comments:

  1. CC, 3. June 2013, 8:41

    It seems the capitalists are still looking for the socialist money tree to enhance their profit-taking ways.

     
  2. erentz, 3. June 2013, 14:34

    To put this $300million figure in perspective. Wellington Airport is worth about $500million by my estimation. Any public infusion of $300m should come with a commensurate stake in the company. Roughly 35%, which would double WCC’s shareholding.

    But there’s no way ratepayers should fund this. There are more important things requiring ratepayer attention. But if central government wanted to fund it — you know, because we’re a dying city — then I wouldn’t complain.

     
  3. Ross Clark, 3. June 2013, 22:42

    I like aeroplanes, and airports, but the wishful thinking in this request is gob-smacking. Christchurch’s direct links to Asia make how much difference?

    What would help is a direct air service through to Auckland’s international terminal, rather than international passengers facing the trek from the Domestic to the International terminal (and yet another security check etc). International arrivals whose final destination was Wellington would change onto a 737 in Auckland, and have their final border & customs clearance in Wellington. In reverse, people would leave Wellington for Auckland and fly straight to the International Terminal. Some services from CHC are operated like this. The other ace is the hole is the Sydney link, because this connects through to Dubai w/Emirates, and Dubai is how you connect to everywhere!

    That said, I suspect that the current International Terminal could handle a 787 or A350 fairly easily – the passenger loads would not be much more than a 737, so that is not the issue.

     
  4. KB, 5. June 2013, 17:25

    Wouldn’t it be a lot cheaper to extend the Paraparaumu airport runway, seeing as it’s surrounded by land rather than water. Paraparaumu could service the long haul routes, while the current airport handles what it does just fine at the moment. It would even lend some credibility to the Kapiti expressway.

     
  5. Stan, 5. June 2013, 17:44

    As a ratepayer I am angry that I was not asked for my authority to spend my money. When the Draft Annual Plan process has not yet been approved, it is beyond understanding how a commercial enterprise can write a begging letter seeking $1 million to fund a Consent process. WCC used obscure references in its ‘report’ insinuating that consultation had taken place in the Long Term Plan. In actual fact, WCC just about broke every rule in failing to exercise its Community Engagement Plan. So which airlines are queuing up to land at Wellington Airport? Certainly not Air New Zealand. Where is WIAL’s business plan? What is the return on investment for the $300 million expenditure? WCC was eager to donate our money to gain the limelight but gave residents the thumbs down when WIAL used draconian measures to construct Barriers on Stewart Duff Drive. Could this donation be the first of many applications by WIAL for further handouts?

     
  6. Sridhar, 6. June 2013, 14:27

    @erentz. I don’t think a final decision has been made on how this project is going to be funded. But I would guess this money will have to come from elsewhere. I don’t think WCC has the money to sink on such a project. I like your suggestion why the central govt could put the money. they could take some money out of RONS and put on this project which will probably have better returns on investment compared to roads.

    @Ross Clark. One thing to note would be that Chch international airport was not really to be an international airport but more of a gateway for Antarctic expeditions, being the closest city. Commercial international flights have only followed after that.
    Your suggestion of how international travel could be between Wellington and Auckland is the way it works right now, except for the international terminal bit. But then the distance between the domestic and international terminal is not so much. The time it takes to walk between the two terminals in Auckland is less than it takes to walk from one international terminal to another at Singapore Changi Airport.
    I would prefer that Wellington has the option of international flights so travel times are reduced. Further, with direct flights from Wellington you are reducing take off process by one, which is when most of the fuel is consumed by a plane and will hence reduce carbon emissions.

     
  7. Seaside Johnny, 6. June 2013, 22:11

    Sridhar – before you start making assumptions about Christchurch and Op. Deep Freeze, understand one thing: when Christchurch was being developed, it meant New Zealand would have two international airports.
    Second point: Sydney is closer to Christchurch than Auckland, that’s why it was developed. Next time you want to comment on things you know nothing about, I suggest you get off your bike first.

     
  8. starkive, 8. June 2013, 13:39

    Why is it that no story I have read about this question has ever asked an airline for their opinion?

    And for the record, the main thing stopping Canberra-Wellington flights is not the size of the planes needed to make the flight (almost exactly the same distance as Wellington-Melbourne), but the lack of international status for Canberra’s airport.

     
  9. MindPilot, 9. June 2013, 11:03

    My concern is that if they extend the runway, those flights coming in from the northern end will be flying even lower over the northern suburbs – I hope they’ll sound proof the affected houses!

     
  10. Sridhar, 9. June 2013, 16:52

    @Seaside Johnny. What has my biking got to do with the airport business :). BTW, I didn’t make any assumptions regarding Chch’s international status vis-a-vis Antartic expeditions. That is what I was told by the driver when I took the tour in the Antarctic centre back in 2000 (at that time the tour included a tour of Chch international airport as well). So maybe you want to check if your understanding is correct or not.

    Anyway, just because Sydney is closer to Christchurch than Auckland doesn’t mean we shouldn’t explore options for Wellington. Especially if we want big businesses from Asia to setup shop in Wellington. Why would businesses want to spend a couple of hours in Auckland / Christchurch when they could be in Wellington long before that? S

     
  11. Ross Clark, 18. June 2013, 1:33

    Sridhar – I’ve used Changi, a number of times. Your comparison doesn’t quite work because at Changi there are no barriers to inter-terminal access once you are airside.

    The reason why I suggested direct flights to the AKL International Terminal, is that it would save well over half an hour in end-to-end journey time. A passenger coming up from Wellington would be treated as an arriving international transit passenger and passed through to the International Departures area without the twenty-minute walk from the domestic terminal and a further quarter of an hour getting through security. In reverse a traveller would avoid the scrum at AKL’s international arrivals (eg. three A380s arriving at once, after October).

     
  12. Richard Randerson, 20. June 2013, 14:52

    This proposal has come “suddenly out of the air”, almost as a fait accompli supported by Airport and Council. Who speaks for Evans Bay, its recreational attractions and iconic beauty? Citizens will have a chance to dialogue with the Mayor on Wed 3 July at a special eastern suburbs community meeting (7.30pm, Hataitai Bowling Club, 157 Hataitai Rd))