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21 comments:

  1. Dr Sea Rotmann, 26. November 2015, 15:03

    Thanks so much for pointing out this very significant issue – it’s one that will affect large parts of Wellington, not just us residents. Though for the people at Moa Point it’ll apparently mean getting moved to hotels during night time work – that can’t be cheap! Nor is it ideal especially seeing almost everyone here has pets… What about Lyall Bay residents? Coutts and Bridge St? Rongotai Rd? They can’t put all the 100s of residents who won’t be able to sleep into hotels, surely. And the safety issues sound like an even worse nightmare for pilots, on top of the inadequate safety zones… Madness.

     
  2. Esjay, 26. November 2015, 16:12

    It seems as if the whole world evolves around the wants of the Airport! And why should it? Once the fill is dumped on-site will the bulldozers then take over after midnight? WIAL has concluded that Moa Point residents will be the only residents to be affected from construction activity. Apart from the trucks traversing Wellington streets, residents of Lyall Bay, Melrose and Strathmore Park will also be on the receiving end. The environment in these locations during the night time hours is very quiet. So why does WIAL consider that residents would accept a noisy intrusion from construction work when most folk are sleeping?

     
  3. luke, 26. November 2015, 16:30

    scaremongering.

     
  4. Curtis Nixon, 26. November 2015, 17:54

    Wow! That number of trucks through central Wellington every day for months would be devastating. I once lived next to the route of trucks going to and from a huge digging project, Fraser Cove in Tauranga. Every truck shook my house and as some were double rigs of a truck and trailer unit, they shook a bit harder. After a while I could tell the difference between a single or a double load!

     
  5. Esjay, 26. November 2015, 17:54

    Luke, facts are facts.

     
  6. Ian Apperley, 26. November 2015, 18:06

    When they built the tunnel at the southern end of the airport it was done at night. You could hear it from all over the Eastern Suburbs. Miramar, Strathmore, Hataitai, Evans Bay, Lyall Bay, Kilbirnie, Melrose … It was worse on still nights. I lived in Miramar at the time and it would wake me.

     
  7. JC, 27. November 2015, 6:54

    Short term pain, long term gain. Harden up folks.

     
  8. Paul, 27. November 2015, 10:05

    @ JC: should that be short term pain, long term white elephant? The Airport’s spin has strong whiffs of BS emanating from it. Steven Joyce is spot on – if it really will deliver such a great return on investment, why don’t Infratil pay for it?

     
  9. Esjay, 27. November 2015, 10:24

    JC. No doubt you’ve not suffered from sleep disturbance as result of continual night time noise. Why do you think that a night time curfew at the airport was put in place? If its going to be long term gain, perhaps you should inform us of your plan.

     
  10. M Mulholland, 27. November 2015, 10:37

    Anyone willing to house swap during the three-year construction period? Maybe a councillor. Better still, the C.E O of the airport.

     
  11. Karl, 27. November 2015, 12:47

    Why are they not extending into the harbour, and why are they not dredging the seabed sand to reclaim the runway instead of moving unrealistic amounts of quarry rock? Has anybody had a look at how it’s done in other countries? How is the long term suitability of the airport in light of recent seismic and geological findings.

     
  12. Central City Voter, 27. November 2015, 14:34

    Shocking. Look forward to voting out the politicians behind this mad scheme.

     
  13. Matt, 27. November 2015, 15:48

    I live in the Eastern Suburbs. The raging winds are noisy. Extra trucks and digging won’t make a difference unless you are really close. Three years is a small price to pay for fantastic direct access to Asia , US and Dubai. No airline will commit until the thing is built. I say it’s a project worth, having especially in ten twenty thirty years time. This is long over due and couldn’t happen sooner.

     
  14. Southcoaster, 28. November 2015, 1:10

    Hey Matt – you think that you’ll get direct access to Asia, the US AND Dubai? And you’re happy to pay for it all without knowing if a single one of these fantastical flights will eventuate? As my mate Darryl Kerrigan would say: “You’re dreaming, mate”.

     
  15. Sophie, 28. November 2015, 22:10

    Barges, barges, barges

     
  16. Guy, 29. November 2015, 9:32

    Karl, they’ve done a huge amount of background work to this project, and they know what they are doing. Trust the experts. Why are they doing it from rock, and not from sand? Because rock boulders, at about a tonne each or more, will be more inclined to stay where they are placed, rather than sand from the sea bed, which will very swiftly collapse.
    Why are they extending to the south and not the north? Resource consenting issues, but a couple of main ones: they can’t have traffic in a tunnel to the north, as they need to be able to have a clear (non-tunnel) traffic route to the east. For obvious reasons, dangerous goods vehicles are forbidden from driving in tunnels. There is a fuel depot on the wharf just to the north east… The plane’s approach path to the north is also relatively low over the suburbs of Newlands etc. Extending the runway to the north means that planes would be lower, and closer to the houses to the north. Unlikely to be welcomed.

    Sophie – Barges? Wouldn’t that be lovely? Unfortunately, extending south, any barge from Petone would have to go out through the heads, south and around some of the more rocky and unpredictable waters, and back in again to Moa Point. Putting heavily laden, slow moving barges out through our main shipping channel? Just not going to happen.
    Sadly, any movement of rocks from the Petone to Grenada link Road, to Moa point, will have to be by trucks. It’s the only option. Actually, there is another option: buy up one of the south hills in Strathmore, and quarry that instead. May not be such a popular move amongst residents.

     
  17. Martin C, 29. November 2015, 11:12

    factual problem: heavy trucks cannot use the Terrace or Mt Victoria Tunnels, so they would have to pass through Oriental Bay and Evans Bay. This doesn’t negate the rest of the article.

     
  18. lindsay, 29. November 2015, 11:25

    So they wouldn’t be driving down Vivian Street? And the report is wrong when it states they’d be using SH1?

     
  19. Mike, 29. November 2015, 13:58

    Some facts:

    * dangerous goods vehicles can go through tunnels that are designed for such use, such as SH1 Victoria Park tunnel in Auckland, so there’s no reason why a tunnel at the north end of the runway could not be so designed, too;
    * heavy, slow barges loaded with dredgings have gone out through the heads before, so there’s no reason why this shouldn’t happen again;
    * it’s only the edge of the reclamation that’s rock, not the whole thing – material in the main body will be held by the solid edge, so it won’t collapse;
    * heavy trucks can and do use the Terrace and Mt Vic tunnels, and SH1 (not Oriental Bay) is the proposed trucking route to the airport, going back via Tirangi Rd, Coutts St, Bridge St, Rongotai Rd, Jean Batten St to Cobham Drive.

     
  20. Dr Sea Rotmann, 29. November 2015, 18:35

    The reason why it didn’t go north was purely economic – based on the 40m of soft shingle on the sea bed, it would have cost over $1b. Barges will be used as well as trucks.

     
  21. Esjay, 29. November 2015, 19:11

    All this info to build something that is a dream for Infratil. Imagine how their shareholders must feel. Money thrown at a project that at this stage is originating from elsewhere without affecting their dividend. As for the impact of construction on the wider community – WIAL has no conscience on this, as nothing overrides their objective. Build it now and others will sweat when it comes to a risk on financial investment.